Any takers?

[nocturnus33]

hayseed_42 resume in a phrase what I felt about the SS/HG ship Snape/Granger, yes. Rickman!Snape/Watson!Hermione, fuck no!

I ask her permision into using the adapt phrase in an icon, is there any nice person in this flist with time to teach me how to make a "moving" icon with this motto:

Snape/Granger, yes. Rickman!/Watson!, fuck no!

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Some one post at WIKTT a stupid thing about H/S going to the states, I didn't say anything about that I felt it depends on the writter, but then today there was this post, and I can't stop answering:

The poster: It wouldn't be as advanced as English magic of course but there could be a special power in the primal, less refined magic of Native American Indians.

ME: Of course? Ejem, pardon me. I disagree.

America as the hole country, or america as the USA? Just kidding, I know you are including all the complex and lovely continent from Alaska to Chile in it's hole diversity, and not just one single country.
Also the idea of raw vs refine (advance) magic refering to Europe vs our continent is a little ethnocentric and like Rousseau idea of Bon Sauvage (wich if romantic, is insulting).

The word indians came from the idea of Colon arriving to India, but we have a culture of our own, not Indian one, not Raw, of course. But a different way of percieving the world, I would love this pairing to discover our culture and the values in it. Is hole different racionality, wich of both, Severus or Hermione, could be the more biased, prejuice and ignorant towards our American diversity?

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Of all the ethnocentric ignorants!. Grrrrrrrrrr.
Indians!, Raw!, Not advance as England, of course; less refine.

I tend to forgot the Empire is healthy. I recon I lost my temper.

Comments

[campy-capybara.livejournal.com]

I saw the post after reading Molly's lj. *shake head* Well, the poster's profile says she's an 18 year-old student from Bay City, Texas. Perhaps she hasn't quite grasp the idea that being advanced doesn't equal speaking English or having a form of lifestyle that is contemporary. *sighs*

[nocturnus33]

she's an 18 year-old student from Bay City, Texas


Well, that will explain a lot.

[straussmonster.livejournal.com]

Not to defend idiocy, but in general United States English parlance, "America" is the United States, "North America" is US/Canada/Mexico, and then "Central America" for the area from Mexico south to Columbia, and "South America" for the entire southern part.

I know this can rub people the wrong way, but it's just how you say these things in the US. Shit, you say "America" and trust me--I don't think of Chile as being part of it unless you prod me to. :)

[nocturnus33]

in general United States English parlance

Yeah, but language is not neutral, far from that it holds values and representation of the world. English people are masters into working and turning words into politically correcteness falling even in idocy sometimes. A Latin author couldn't publish a book because it was called "Dark Skin", first wordler decided it was aoffensive. To whom? We have a dark skin after all. I would like they have the same finesse of returning us a name that, here in Latina America is felt as stolen. A little flip through most of our literature will give you the idea, we felt as one continent, and we call our self America. We have been robed in many ways, the fact that our name is deny to us, is just one more expression of opressive structures aginst us.

[forthwritten.livejournal.com]

I think it would be interesting to look at how different cultures might use magic, yes. On one hand I think it's enormously arrogant to say that everyone uses magic in the same way as it's shown in Hogwarts, on the other I agree with what you're saying about the 'noble savage' idea. The latter idea isn't absent from English thinking - look at the way that Celticism is romanticised.

I mean, if a culture organises time in a different way then how does that affect time magic? Or has different ingredients available in the culture for potions? Or has different religious influences? Or has different values?

On a seperate rant, Anglophile US people annoy me because they have such an idealised chocolate-box perception of England and don't seem to want to imagine the council estates and industrial cities. The only HP fic I wrote tried to address that (it's here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/seeingstars/224703.html) if you'd like to read it).

[nocturnus33]

I think it would be interesting to look at how different cultures might use magic
Agree, there are interesting authors like M. Eliade that study this. Also we could compare the mythical thinking vs Modern rationality, also greek Mythos to Logos change could help us. Jung and his arquetypes (?) could give us some hints too.

[telosphilos.livejournal.com]

From what I'm reading, this twit is from some small town in the middle of nowhere Texas. I just checked exactly where the place is located and it is an old railroad town that has very little geographically to recommend it. Small out of the way places like that in Texas are not known for their educational standards. Actually, I've met people from such small towns that were so poorly served by their teachers they were writing at a seventh grade level durring their freshman years in college. It's not an excuse, but her education as far as history and geography go is likely to be extremely poor because her teachers were not well paid. I think we can assign this one to ignorance rather than intended offence.

A valid challange would be one where they expected to learn from the greater history of these long standing cultures and their different approaches to magic as a whole. I've read some stories that have pointed out that the prohibition against discovery by muggles really only serves first world countries. (I think it was The Burried Life.) I'd love to see some one make more of that.

[nocturnus33]

I think Severus and Hermione could travel to where they want, as long as the author lift a good case to tham. Is the fact that the girl see us raw and primitive that irkes me. But poor thing, she is young after all.

[basbleugrrl.livejournal.com]

And that is why I almost never read e-mails from WIKTT. 95% morons.

BTB

[basbleugrrl.livejournal.com]

I'm curious about where the Rickman/Watson thing came from . . . are people out there writing Rickman/Watson "fanfic," as in the two actors and not the characters? *confused*

Re: BTB

[nocturnus33]

Some people tend to confused them, and wrote in that way.

Re: BTB

[basbleugrrl.livejournal.com]

You mean in terms of physical description, or actual name usage?